#lightseeker hyetta

[val-of-the-north]

It came to me in a vision, I had to make it a reality

[quortknee]

Just added these two to my INPRNT store! There's a sitewide sale on right now so please consider picking up a print of mine!

[Store Link] | [Fia Link] | [Hyetta Link]

[lamissems]

Soulstober day 3: Eye

[chaospyromancy]

soulsborne sketches from the past couple weeks. i might color that ranni sketch

[triflingshadows]

a few of the girlies of the lands between

[catcas22]

So I’m Pretty Sure Hyetta is Vyke’s Maiden

            Or at least her reincarnation. Maybe this was already super obvious and I’m just late to the party, but I’ll write it down anyway.

            Let’s start with the Shield of the Guilty description.

            Shield made to venerate a maiden whose eyes were crushed by Briars of Sin before being reborn in these lands.

            Given it’s placement on the Weeping Peninsula, we seem to be meant to assume that the maiden in question is Irina. According to her dialogue, her eyes have been weak since birth. After her revival (?) as Hyetta, she says the same, her blindness was a congenital condition, not the result of an illness or injury. Based on the Dung Eater’s questline, we know that killing someone in a specific way (or tampering with the body after death) can inflict a curse that persists into the next life.

            (Side note -- I’ve seen some theories proposing that “Hyetta” is actually the corpse of Irina being possessed either by Shabriri or by the Three Fingers. However, unless she is a phenomenal actress I think we can rule out both of these options based on her horrified reaction to the truth about Shabriri grapes. While I do think that Irina is dead and her body is being possessed, I think that the entity in question is one of her past lives, not Shabriri.)

            So who was this maiden who was executed via the Briars of Sin? I think we can make an educated guess.

Assassin's Approach Description

            The assassins were charged with eliminating Tarnished who had strayed from guidance.

Crepus’s Vial Description

            A ritual implement used by Roundtable Hold assassins. There was a time when Tarnished who had strayed from guidance feared nothing more than utter silence.

            Confessors are tasked with hunting down and assassinating the enemies of the Golden Order, with a special emphasis on Tarnished who strayed from the guidance of Grace. They almost certainly would have gone after Vyke, a very high-profile Tarnished who chose to follow in the footsteps of the most reviled man in history.

Fingerprint Set Description

            No other Tarnished was closer to the throne of the Elden Lord than Vyke. But without announcement, Vyke traveled far below the capital, and was scorched by the flame of frenzy. Did he make his choice for his maiden, or did some other force lure him with suggestion?

            We find Vyke’s berserker shade guarding the Church of Inhibition, within which we find the body of a dead finger maiden. At this point in Vyke’s journey, I think we can confidently say that he did not intend to become the Lord of Chaos, and still hoped to control the Flame of Frenzy to serve his own purposes.

            The description of Vyke’s War Spear (which we gain by defeating the berserker shade) describes Vyke as “tormented by the yellow flame of frenzy from within.” And the ghostly figure at the base of the hill has this to say:

            Ahh, Lord Vyke, it seems that you were no lord, after all. Then where is he? Our true Lord, our Lord of Frenzied Flame. We beg of you, incinerate all that divides and distinguishes. Ahh, may chaos take the world!

            Clearly, this man was a worshiper of the Frenzied Flame. When he says that Vyke was “no lord, after all,” he is not referring to Vyke’s failure to become Elden Lord -- he is referring to Vyke’s refusal to become the Lord of Frenzied Flame.

So, my proposal:

            Wishing to spare his maiden, Hyetta, Vyke accepts the mark of the Three Fingers. However, he keeps his armor on during the Fingers’ embrace, hoping to blunt the effect and maintain control of himself.

            The Roundtable Hold hears of Vyke’s heretical actions. Assassins are dispatched to kill him.

            Vyke and Hyetta are ambushed at the Church of Inhibition -- or, if you want to get really tragic, Vyke sent her away after his meeting with the Three Fingers so that she would not be incriminated by her association with him, only for the Confessors to hunt her down anyway.

            The Confessors execute Hyetta via the Briars of Sin. Vyke proceeds to lose his shit so hard that an echo of his rage (the berserker shade) still guards the church centuries after. For the first time, he gives in to the Flame of Frenzy.

            After massacring the Confessors, Vyke attempts to rein himself back in. He finally manages to wrest control back from the Flame of Frenzy by tearing out his fingerprint eye (which we can later find) and throwing it away.

            He rejects the influence of the Three Fingers and heads for the Mountaintop of the Giants to finish what he started. Vyke remains in control -- for the time being.

            Many years later, Hyetta is reincarnated as the maiden Irina. Due to the manner of her death, she is born with damaged eyesight. After Irina’s death, Hyetta slips back into the driver’s seat (albeit without any memory of her past life) and more or less picks up where she left off, acting as a finger maiden to one who would become the Lord of Frenzied Flame.

[k-k-armadillo]

oh shit these grapes are bangin

[nishihii]

You'd help a maiden in need, wouldn't you?

[katyspersonal]

I start to feel like Irina and Hyetta are simply twins, maybe specifically the case of 'two people, one soul' twins thing going on

There could be ongoing prejudice against twins like this, and for a good reason? At least 'good reason' in the eyes of Golden Order believers. Darian and Devin are such twins and one of them is 'golden' but another is 'silver': and 'silver' is something condemned, connected with the Nox, so Devin was separated from Darian and basically sealed away. With Miquella and Malenia it isn't certain, they could have 'one soul' thing too as it apparently doesn't prevent the twins from existing as separate people. BUT! Coincidentally, one twin is pure gold, absolutely immune to any sort of aging and decay (even too much so for his own good), he can't be influenced by any Outer God or have his power alter unlike with other Demigods with whom we've seen their Runes "adapt" to what effects them. Meanwhile, the second twin is not only under influence of an Outer God from the start, but very coincidentally its the one thing specifically opposite to what Miquella represented. Endless rotting and decay, endless rebirth into something else.

And well, then Irina is a very average Finger Maiden. Okay not average since she's blind, but still, the one tasked to pass the will of the Two Fingers. And you see the trend of the second twin always being the 'opposite', and having the short end of the stick no less? And the opposite thing to this is Three Fingers; Hyetta is in the contact with Frenzied Flame rather than the Guidance of Grace! So, maybe, she was abandoned from this standpoint, like what happened with Devin and only Hyetta accepted.

I assume something specific has to happen as it is not EVERY twins pair; there is no this type of duality between Morgott and Mohg (as far as I can conclude), there are twin Maidens in the Roubdtable, and there were twin sages in Raya Lucaria. With the latter one I am not 100% sure, as they seem to be conjoined twins so abandoning one was not even possible, but also the reason might have been just that Raya Lucaria used to not abide by Golden Order's dogmas back then and thus even if they had some 'lucky/unlucky duality' they'd be allowed to exist in peace!

But yeah, I think it is just this simple: that Hyetta was not allowed into family, similarly to how Devin was separated from Darian? I think maybe it is also always the younger twin who gets 'the short end of the stick'. Maybe Irina and Hyetta also likewise had connection without having ever met each other, but it simply was not as wholesome as what D twins had and rather they feared each other!

[tarnishedinquirer]

Persons of Interest: Hyetta

Name: Hyetta Title/Alias: Lightseeker, Irina of Morne? Race: Seafarer Gender: Female Occupation: Finger Maiden (Aspirant) Affiliation: Two Fingers?, Frenzied Flame? Notes:

Bears a remarkable suspicious resemblance to Irina of Morne.

Same clothing, right down to bloodstains, with the addition of a yellow mantle.

Has no memory or knowledge of her life as Irina

Can see the "light" when she consumes "Shabriri grapes"

Shabriri grapes are ruptured eyes from those afflicted with the Frenzied Flame.

I gave her the grape the grape the grape the ritual the grape the the grape

How did she come back to life?

Why did she lose her previous identity?

What connection do her two identities have to the Shield of the Guilty?

Note: Shabriri is a demon from a Badlands tribe I have some ancestry with. That's how I recognized the name. It means "Sightbreaker" and is associated with tainted water. It produces a burning feeling, focused on the eyes, before your eyes rot out of your head. It's a story likely inspired by a now-extinct parasite, and the Frenzied Flame seems to have no association with water, but there are still parallels. One might have been named for the other, or perhaps it's just echoes across the fog.

[brightlydust]

COMMUNION

[serpent-sister-made-of-yore]

Inktober 2023, day 2. Path

"Hello? Is someone there? Would you donate any Shabriri grapes in your possession to me? I'm on a pilgrimage in search of the distant light. And when I eat one of those grapes, I can feel the light in the back of my eyes."

[theofaluvsviolet]

~ Elden Ring Female Characters Icons!~ | Part 3

Multiple female NPCs from Elden ring. Made with AzaleasDolls!

• Pic 1: Roderika, Hyetta, Nepheli Loux

• Pic 2: Fia, Millicent, Latenna the albinauric

• Pic 3: Sorceress Sellen, Rya, Lady Tanith

[cells-n-stuff]

More elden ring lore!

Thoughts on Vyke, Shabriri, and finger-maidens

So! I've been playing elden ring and going for the frenzied flame ending. Since it is a soulsborne game, I've also been watching hours of lore vids. They've got me back in my basement with my tin-foil hat on, thinking about different interpretations.

So, Vyke! Imo he couldn't have become the lord of frenzied flame.

For us to become the LoFF, we still sacrifice a finger maiden, which is Hyetta. Vyke's maiden was probably already dead when he returned from the shunning grounds. There is also the chance that he wouldn't have sacrificed her anyway.

Since we don't know how he ends up in the evergaol, my theory is that Shabriri tricked him (again) and imprisoned him there. Since he can no longer become the LoFF. Also, he's tarnished and may come back if killed, so trapping him is the safer option.

NEXT, Shabriri. Who/what is he?

Well, I have another post explaining why I think that Shabriri might be a title granted to the "chosen champion" of the frenzied flame/three fingers. And the similarities to the abrahamic Satan. So check that out if you want.

But another theory I've seen getting kicked around that I want to add to is that he was a part of the great caravan.

The most accepted theory about who he is, is that he was a man who slandered the great caravan, which led to them being imprisoned under shunning ground. Which is fine, I guess, but it lacks the old razzle-dazzle for me.

What if the 'slander' bit was a lie. What we know in-game about Shabriri comes from the Golden order. So if it is just propaganda against those who were already judged to be heretics, that adds a little spice imo.

Circling back to the great caravan, I believe that while they originally didn't worship the three-fingers/frenzied flame, they did not worship the golden order. What if Shabriri was the leader of the caravan, and the golden order wanted to make an example of these 'heretics', lied that he slandered something and blinded him, he and the great caravan were then imprisoned. Through suffering and loss, he became mad and was blessed with the frenzied flame.

Now, I'm dabbling in cut content, but Kale was going to have a quest surrounding the great caravan. One of his lines is, "They think that we worshiped the three-fingers?! That we brought the maddening sickness upon them?! Well, if that's what they expect from us, then that's what they shall get from us!"

So what if Shabriri was falsely accused ,that he was originally never a liar/slander.

"What about Shabriri tricking and lying to Vyke and us?!" I hear you cry from the rafters! Well, he is a liar now. He became what the world expected him to be.

We know with relative certainty that he lied to Vyke about saving his finger-maiden. He most likely did the same to us. But I think he lied to us in a tricky way.

Finger-maidens.

So, Shabriri tells us that it's not fair and that shouldn't we save a maiden rather than to sacrifice her. When he talks to us, we assume he's talking about Melina. But, from my understanding, she is not a true finger-maiden. She is only acting the part. Our true maiden (in the FF ending) is Hyetta. So, while Shabriri does lie and trick us, we end up burning a maiden anyway.

I suppose that you don't have to finish Hyetta's quest to get the frenzied flame ending, but imo it makes more sense to do them together. It makes sense to me (in a lore perspective, not gameplay), that to become LoFF, you have to truly understand what loss is. What better way do to that than having the player kill their own maiden. (This is why I think Vyke couldn't have become LoFF. His maiden was killed by someone/something else. Not him.) The other endings, Melina sacrifices herself with the giants flame.

But Hyetta is killed by YOU and YOUR flame.

Note: All of this is for fun, and honestly, I don't think that Miyazaki or G.R.R.M knows what the lore is anymore. And I've learned that I have way to much time on my hands....

*me stuck in another soulsborne lore loop

[ponderousorb]

WIP Irina

[catcas22]

Hey guys, remember this theory?

tldr: Hyetta was Vyke's maiden who died by the hand of a Roundtable assassin wielding the Briars of Sin.

Can't believe I didn't realize this before, but we have a suspect.

Alberich's Pointed Hat Description

Mad Tongue Alberich's pointed hat, a sign of a heretical practitioner. 

Set with red glintstones said to be formed by the blood of sacrifices. Strengthens thorn sorcery. 

Alberich was an aloof yet disturbed heretical sorcerer said to have been driven mad by jeering tongues during his service to the Roundtable Hold long ago.

Not only was he an assassin of the Roundtable Hold, but he's the only enemy I'm aware of aside from the Thorn Sorcerers who uses the Briars of Sin.

While the Thorn Sorcerers are currently in Liurnia, they appear to congregate at lower elevations near the lake, closer to where Adan is imprisoned. Unless I'm mistaken, there aren't any Fire Monk garrisons as far inland as the Church of Inhibition. In any case, hunting down Vyke would have fallen far outside of their purview -- he was very specifically not trying to interfere with the Flame of Ruin.

Alberich, on the other hand, was a Roundtable agent.

Crepus Vial Description

Small mysterious bottle with a dark mist sealed within.

Eliminates all sound made by the wearer during movement.

A ritual implement used by Roundtable Hold assassins. There was a time when Tarnished who had strayed from guidance feared nothing more than utter silence.

Hunting down heretical Tarnished would have been his priority. There's also a less than zero chance that Alberich is Gideon's son -- who better to send after a Tarnished as dangerous as Vyke?

While this certainly doesn't prove the original theory, it does offer some support.